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Post by youonlywish on Sept 30, 2010 16:30:55 GMT -5
I have always been a fan of debate and philosophy.
Let's try to figure out exactly what a CS is...
I think of it like a 'prepared helper'... or those people who choose to help those in need. Not to say that a CS would LOOK for trouble - quite the contrary, I hope to NEVER be confronted with a violent situation, local or regional disaster or the like. However, I'm not so jaded as to believe that these issues will NEVER effect me. If it does, I hope to be prepared, and if it effects someone else, as long as it is ethically, professionally and legally right for me to do so, I hope I can help.
I guess we have to start with definitions...
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Post by swirv on Sept 30, 2010 18:48:32 GMT -5
Good question. I think many people are actually sheepdogs... at least in terms of protecting their family.
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Post by youonlywish on Sept 30, 2010 18:56:11 GMT -5
I think you're absolutely right.
I've got a diploma in SSW.
Does that make a crisis intervention specialist a CS?
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Post by youonlywish on Sept 30, 2010 18:57:37 GMT -5
Could maybe be better stated as someone with a general compassion and respect for humankind. Someone willing to help. Period.
Is there a difference in PRINCIPAL between giving a homeless guy a bottle of water (read: not CASH) and defending your Wife from an intruder?
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Post by swirv on Sept 30, 2010 19:06:40 GMT -5
Could maybe be better stated as someone with a general compassion and respect for humankind. Someone willing to help. Period. Is there a difference in PRINCIPAL between giving a homeless guy a bottle of water (read: not CASH) and defending your Wife from an intruder? Yeah, there's a range and limit on what anyone would do to help. I'm not sure if the principal is the same.... I think there should be some kind of proactive nature for a CS, meaning they don't wait for things to go bad before they act. There are also many tools that can be used, including social ones (before AND after a crisis). |
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Post by swirv on Sept 30, 2010 19:08:07 GMT -5
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Post by archer550 on Sept 30, 2010 19:42:45 GMT -5
Although helping your fellow man on a day to day basis is quite admirable
imo a sheep dog should not be defined as helping hang, but a protecting hand.
Again my opinion on the subject: I do not believe it is the job of the sheep dog to babysit (ie feed and cloth) the ignorant masses but more to stop the bad people from infringing on the rights of the people.
That being said i really am not to big of a fan of branding myself or others as anything other then a citizen.... some citizens are informed and pro-active "sheep dogs" and some are ignorant and reliant "sheep".
You might say well then why are u on this site?
Well i'm here because i know the wealth of knowledge and help that will be available here will be outstanding. Although i don't like the term all that much it doesnt actually put me off the site at all.
thats my piece
Cheers
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Post by brato on Sept 30, 2010 20:35:06 GMT -5
Yes, I will say that i help people out at times , mostly family & at times some one i don;t even know.
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Post by daveysnipes on Oct 1, 2010 20:54:15 GMT -5
I personally believe a Sheepdog is someone who will stand up for others when they are down...stands up for what is truly RIGHT, tries to lead and direct others but not by ordering people around and using fear/scare tactics, someone who seeks the truth and will stand up and call foul when something is not right. Is ready and prepared to help not only themself but others in a time of need...that could be SHTF, natural disaster, and so on.
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Post by youonlywish on Oct 5, 2010 16:36:41 GMT -5
Davey - is it okay if I ask some questions about your post?
Just to stimulate further thinking on the topic...
What's RIGHT?
Is there such a thing as an inherent RIGHT?
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Post by youonlywish on Oct 10, 2010 12:36:46 GMT -5
I think in some ways too, the sheepdog is dependant on it's surroundings.
For instance - a sheepdog in Canada can not legally act as a sheepdog in the US - in some ways...
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Post by youonlywish on Oct 22, 2010 21:38:38 GMT -5
What's RIGHT?
I think to define this - we need to focus on it's use. We'll use a deliberate action on the part of the CS.
So then, a deliberate action by a CS - to be considered a 'right' action - "Doing what's right."
What's right - I really think should be defined as an action that benefits the greater good of the person who's natural and legal rights are being infringed upon.
Ideas?
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Post by kjk on Dec 30, 2010 1:23:33 GMT -5
I agree with your definition, wish. What I personally think is "right" and what you think the definition is may be two different things. BUT, at the end of the day, I believe 99.9% of people know when someone is being treated/acted upon or having an outside influence (natural disaster, medical emergency) thrust upon them. That's when it's up to the CS to decide if he/she will intervene. My two cents.
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Post by youonlywish on Jan 25, 2011 21:03:29 GMT -5
That brings another really interesting aspect into our discussion. Choice. Thanks for the input.
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